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Post by sensgm on Jul 14, 2011 18:30:05 GMT -5
To Ottawa: Lubomir Visnovsky, David Schlemko, Vernon Fiddler, Danny Kristo and $1,000,000
To St Louis: Nathan Horton, Ryan Potulny, Matt Carkner and Patrick Wiercioch
NOTE: It was agreed between the both of us that Danny Kristo would be created before this trade is processed, therefore counting as one of St. Louis's prospect creations!
I accept
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Post by BluesGM on Jul 14, 2011 18:31:30 GMT -5
agreed. i sent the email before this trade was agreed, so per league rules, i should only have 2 more activations remaining.
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Post by Avs on Jul 14, 2011 18:46:15 GMT -5
you have to type it like, "one meeeellion dollars"
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Post by LosAngelesGM on Jul 15, 2011 18:29:45 GMT -5
I wanted to post as this trade seems a bit off to me.
I know I have inquired about N Horton, as well as a few other teams after speaking to them, and every team stated Ottawa wanted a lot for Horton. I know personally for me, he wanted a young upcoming wing and a young upcoming top four defensemen and would not budge from that offer. Other teams were stating his asking price was very very high for Horton, which is fine, but with this trade, what did Stl even give up?
I see really nothing of value. Visnovsky is rated good, but hes very very old (which is a complete contradiction to what other teams stated the asking price was for Horton) but hes very expensive and after him, depth players and a prospect who wouldnt have great value. I'm posting as this seems a bit suspicious considering multiple teams have asked for Horton and all agree that Ottawa wanted young upcoming players and then he deals him for little return. I'm contesting the trade as something just seems off here.
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Post by bluejacketsgm on Jul 15, 2011 19:25:30 GMT -5
I agree that this trade does seem rather peculiar given what Ottawa is doing with their team which is rebuilding. It makes zero sense to acquire Visnovsky at this point for ottawa especially as the centerpiece in the return package he's getting for horton.
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Post by BluesGM on Jul 15, 2011 19:40:55 GMT -5
lol. ridiculous. how about you let him run his team and you guys worry about yours?
he wanted goligoski. i threw in a bunch of guys like schlemko if he took visnovsky instead. our negotiations took hours and it was ME who ended up getting frustrated because of the length of our process.
what business is it yours to question his or my deals? we all run our teams differently. mind your own business. sorry if i traded for a player that you wanted - but that gives you no right to question our motives.
you've made several lopsided moves, too, but you don't see us whining...do you? jussi jokinen for shawn horcoff and a 67 overall? are you kidding me?
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Post by BluesGM on Jul 15, 2011 19:44:31 GMT -5
and if you want my opinion as to what he's thinking is - he's probably going to ship off visnovsky for kids (just like he was going to with horton) and picked up schlemko and kristo in the process, for nothing (potulny and carkner are garbage.)
it makes sense - if he can get good value for lubomir. maybe you don't agree with it, but it's not your team.
everyone runs their teams differently. i could critique half of your deals, too. trust me.
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Post by LosAngelesGM on Jul 15, 2011 19:49:04 GMT -5
I'm not critiquing you and your deals overall.
Im talking about Hortons asking price and how a trade occured and it was completely different.
And to say he will get more for Visnovsky than Horton, I completely disagree. A team would rather have a 77 OV rated winger who is 25 than a 35+ year old defensemen who has a massive contract and a few seasons at best remaining.
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Post by Avs on Jul 15, 2011 19:49:20 GMT -5
Ooh ooh! Critique mine first.
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Post by BluesGM on Jul 15, 2011 19:53:32 GMT -5
I'm not critiquing you and your deals overall. Im talking about Hortons asking price and how a trade occured and it was completely different. And to say he will get more for Visnovsky than Horton, I completely disagree. A team would rather have a 77 OV rated winger who is 25 than a 35+ year old defensemen who has a massive contract and a few seasons at best remaining. i never said he'd get more. but if he can get "close" to the value he could for horton - maybe he still makes out in the end. regardless - it's not your team. like i said - you've made some ridiculously one-sided trades. no one has stuck their nose in your business though, what gives you the right to do it to ours? this is the second time, btw. you've traded for ALOT of players i was trying to get (enstrom, jokinen, myers, spezza) but you never saw me come on here and bitch about it did you? how about you show your peers some respect and not show them up publicly...especially someone who has a position of "authority".
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