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Post by BluesGM on Aug 31, 2011 17:48:43 GMT -5
I misspoke. I meant to say I'd prefer that all prospects be done by the new system, if we changed it. That way All prospects were treated equally. You know there's going to be a huge stink if we change the system going forward. People who have prospects rated the old way are going to be mad when prospects created afterwards are different.
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Post by ECFHL Commissioner on Aug 31, 2011 17:53:43 GMT -5
EDIT: I must have hit the wrong button and apparently modified my response over the last post by STL. lol my fault.
I misspoke. I meant to say I'd prefer that all prospects be done by the new system, if we changed it. That way All prospects were treated equally. You know there's going to be a huge stink if we change the system going forward. People who have prospects rated the old way are going to be mad when prospects created afterwards are different.
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Post by bluejacketsgm on Aug 31, 2011 18:57:59 GMT -5
i can see what STL is saying and i've been wondering it myself as most prospects when activated all see to be basically the same version of a nice overall-type player. Granted there are times where prospects do have an overall well-rounded game but most players tend to be gifted in an area or two and struggle in others.
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Post by BluesGM on Aug 31, 2011 22:48:44 GMT -5
EDIT: I must have hit the wrong button and apparently modified my response over the last post by STL. lol my fault. I misspoke. I meant to say I'd prefer that all prospects be done by the new system, if we changed it. That way All prospects were treated equally. You know there's going to be a huge stink if we change the system going forward. People who have prospects rated the old way are going to be mad when prospects created afterwards are different. i dont think there'd be a problem with it - just implement it starting this offseason, this way all prospects created in season 2 and beyond will be done this way only. should be fair for everyone. i think we've all been screwed over before with poor ratings on our prospects, so a positive change could only make people happy IMO.
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Post by sensgm on Sept 1, 2011 4:19:56 GMT -5
I would also agree with the points Alex is making, all of the prospects look very similar in ratings and in a couple of years this will end up destroying the league! Prospects should be seen as young players you research, allowing you to get a young version of the type of player your team requires (say for instance a two way forward or a grinder). If all the specs are similar in ratings then there is no need for research and this makes the whole process pretty boring for the league, and the league will become pretty bland.
In regards to changing the rules, I think the following should be considered:
1. The new rules should apply to all prospects created after this year’s draft! Before the draft we should carry on the way we are in order to make things fair.
2. We certainly cannot go back and rerate all of the created prospects… that’s just going to cause a lot of problems. But maybe we could allow teams to pick one player per team under the age of 21 or one created prospect per team to be rerated under whatever the new system will be.
3. I think Alex’s ranking of players (e.g. HF 7.0 = 67OV, HF 7.5 =68OV, HF8.0 = 70OV, HF8.5 = 71OV and HF9 = 72OV) is spot on and would tie nicely in with how PJ as made the prospects so far! I would also give the prospect creator the discretion to allow some prospects to be rated 1OV higher than the ranking (much like the system we already have in place)! That way there is still a little uncertainty on how well prospects will be created but it also means guys like Crosby, Ovechkin, Stamkos etc… can be rated that little bit better!
4. I totally agree what Alex called “prospects rated accurately” as there being certain stats higher than others in order to reflect the type of player they are!
5. Whatever rules are implemented they need to be sorted out before the draft, as that’s really going to affect how people pick players and how they might trade picks. (also from a personal point of view I have a lot of 1st's so it’s going to affect me massively).
Finally I offered my Services to Nick to being the guy who creates the prospects. But I certainly do not want to step on people toes, my offer is only there if PJ does not want to do the job anymore, or if the new system would take up to much of his time! But what I can say is I have done this kind of job before in other leagues and didn’t get many complaints. I would also have the time and would be willing to read up on what kind of guy I would be creating. I would also suggest if I was given the role (or someone else for that matter) than any of their own personal prospect creations should be reviewed by someone else in order to ensure no cheating is going on!
Anyway those are my comments on the matter and I hope its productive criticism! Also I do not intend my comments to come across as complaining nor a stab at PJ (I really appreciate what you guys put into the league).
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Post by yzerman on Sept 1, 2011 6:48:39 GMT -5
i agree with tom, stamkos needs to be rated better
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Post by sensgm on Sept 1, 2011 7:13:19 GMT -5
I was meaning if and when guys like them are drafted in this league... His ratings are fine
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Post by bluejacketsgm on Sept 1, 2011 8:59:56 GMT -5
"Finally I offered my Services to Nick"
soliciting now eh? you dirty dirty manwhore!
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Post by ECFHL Commissioner on Sept 1, 2011 9:09:58 GMT -5
"Finally I offered my Services to Nick" soliciting now eh? you dirty dirty manwhore! He was willing to do ANYTHING to get his prospects re-worked lol.
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Post by bluejacketsgm on Sept 1, 2011 9:14:36 GMT -5
how was his stick-handling skills?
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