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Post by BluesGM on Sept 1, 2011 18:39:27 GMT -5
Person A: (at large family gathering) Your daughter is such a slut. She put out on our first date because she was shit-faced by the time I picked her up. She's also hoping Gramps over there dies within the next month so she can inherit some money to pay for her meth habit instead. Person B: Thank you for your honesty. Because you were honest I don't see this disrespectful at all and I can't thank you enough for letting us all see the truth. You are commendable and brave! i'm pretty sure these two subject are not even remotely comparable - rendering your analogy completely pointless. i've always been of the mind that if i'm doing something wrong or poorly - i want people to tell me so i can improve. that's all i'm doing here. if that type of mindset upsets PJ, then I apologize, but that's all i'm doing.
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Post by LosAngelesGM on Sept 1, 2011 19:06:05 GMT -5
Alex, You confuse everything. I never said I was upset you came at me for prospects or came at the system. I said the way you talk to people is disrespectful. Tom had the same issue as you. He talked to me normal. Just stated his thoughts, and didnt attack me about how Im the worst person in the world to do prospects. There is a way to bring up an issue and talk to people with some respect, and then there is your way of doing things. If thats how you speak to people, then so be it, but I dont have time for people who treat everyone else like garbage. I dont know if you know this, but you are FAAAAAAAAR from perfect. Sorry if that ruins your night
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Post by LosAngelesGM on Sept 1, 2011 19:07:03 GMT -5
Oh and that isnt flaming Nick, I was being honest. So any claim of "flaming" is false because honesty prevails all.
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Post by bluejacketsgm on Sept 1, 2011 19:07:50 GMT -5
i think i need a cold shower asap
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Post by ECFHL Commissioner on Sept 1, 2011 19:11:10 GMT -5
Here's why there's some irritation by PJ and myself in this thread and others. Look at the first page of the league forum. There are a couple threads about Bad trades that I had to pretty much go through and delete most, if not all, comments. There's a thread complaining about how prospects are made, there's a thread arguing about NHL rerates, there's a thread that I created about UFAs that went off the rails and turned into people complaining about wanting to change the FA system. Then there's arguing over the penalty sliders.
Anything we try to do, 1/2 the people don't like. We are trying our best to fix things when they are brought to our attention. I do tend to agree that certain players were made a bit too generic. I'm sure PJ will also agree. In my opinion, a player's overall is probably the worst way to rate a player's actual ability. Like I stated before, when I original received our league files. Every player that wasn't a star was a 72-74 overall with 99 certain stats and 25 others.
I also do not think it's fair to create a new Prospect system. I knew both PJ and I received emails asking how certain prospects were created, but why did it take 60+ games for the system to become broken. You guys know I'm always open to fix and change and tweak things. If PJ is doing such a bad job, why is it just now that he is called out on the forums. If we change the system, certain prospects that are already created will have to be re-configured. Quiet frankly, maybe all of them.
I've spoken to Tom and I'll speak with PJ soon. Once we decide how we want to proceed I will let you guys know.
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Post by BluesGM on Sept 1, 2011 23:32:01 GMT -5
i really didnt mean this to be taken as complaining. was just trying to propose something for the betterment of the league. i apologize if it came off that way.
i dont think players that were already created need to be reconfigured. just institute it for prospects created year 2 and on. it'd be fair for everyone. hell, i have no prospects and no picks, so i get nothing from this personally, but i'd still like to see it happen. it'd be better for those teams rebuilding, give them a better shot to compete in the future.
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Post by ECFHL Commissioner on Sept 6, 2011 19:50:18 GMT -5
Due to the discussions we’ve had on the forums, we are going to tweak the way prospects are done. We have created a new, OV based chart and all prospects created from here on out will be created by the new chart. We are going to put an emphasis on individuality of prospects. PJ will still do prospects, but he will also have input from myself and Tom(OttGM). When you send in prospects to PJ, please allow 5 days to pass before inquiring about the prospect. We are trying to take more time and make prospects more diverse. The new chart is listed below.
Also, each team is going to be allowed to re-create two prospects that they have on their roster. They can be prospects you created or traded for. You will send these re-creations to myself. If you are activating a prospect you traded for, please list the team that activated him. I understand that not everyone will be happy with this. I know some teams have already traded away prospects because of lower ratings and will be marginally hurt by this. I decided to allow this re-creation to be fair to both the teams who have yet to activate prospects and for the teams who already activated their top prospects and want a chance to get a more fair rating.
Teams have one week from this posting/email to send me their re-creations. After a week, we will no longer accept any re-creations.
Prospect Activation Chart
Hockey's Future Score Overall
10
75
9.5
74
9 73 8.5
72
8 71 7.5 70
7 69
6.5 68
6 67
5 or Below
66
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Post by CanucksGM on Sept 6, 2011 22:05:39 GMT -5
Is this where you activate prospects?
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Post by ECFHL Commissioner on Sept 6, 2011 22:13:48 GMT -5
No, you email PJ
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Post by leafs on Sept 6, 2011 22:15:03 GMT -5
just wondering if you were accepting feedback on this system or if this was concrete and final
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