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Post by bluejacketsgm on Oct 24, 2011 12:07:23 GMT -5
I'm a bit surprised that many of the re-rates weren't as significant as in leagues past. I'm not saying it's a bad thing but I was really shocked that some of my kids, in particular Leddy and Price, didn't budge and actually regressed in Price's case.
Anyone else thrilled or disappointed with their re-rates? I'm pleased overall I think although of course I wish I could have a few changes here and there.
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Post by bluejacketsgm on Oct 24, 2011 12:10:27 GMT -5
Most disappointing: Price, Leddy, Getzlaf Pleasant surprises: Artyukhin, Girardi, and Roy
also receiving a bump was Ovie to an 87ovr..hey, he needed some more scoring damnit and Voracek moved from 74 to 77ovr
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Post by ECFHL Commissioner on Oct 24, 2011 12:43:06 GMT -5
I'm going to allow this thread, however, if it turns into a bitch fest, I'll close it and revoke board privileges from those who bitch. I have no control over the rerates.
For me, I had a few of my offensive players get bumped up a bit, but my defense took a bit of a beating because of their AARP memberships.
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Post by leafs on Oct 24, 2011 13:39:20 GMT -5
yeah re rates were okay, you win some and you lose some so can't really be to upset
the one thing I will suggest is to allow each team to challenge one re rate based on their performance in the sim. This would mainly be geared towards older players who may have put up good numbers this year in the ECFHL but by virtue of the sim got re rated down because they are above 30.
No big deal if you don't want to go for this but just thought I'd suggest it as I've seen it done in many sim re rate leagues to offset the sims hate for vet players
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Post by sensgm on Oct 24, 2011 14:22:09 GMT -5
Leafs I do not mean to offend but we have had the discussion of allowing re-rates already and Nick made it pretty clear that they will not be allowed! I just want to bring that up now so this thread does not become about whether or not we should allow other types of re-rate!
In terms of the topic... I too was a little disappointed with the re-rates but then I looked at other teams and thought actually I didn't do so badly.
My biggest surprise was Boedker going from OV71 to OV74... He is a personal fan favourite and before he kinda sucked in the sim and now hes half decent... So I am really happy with that!
I had a few disappointments which included Brandon Gormley, Jared Cowen and Ryan Wilson! None of these young ones went up at all and I was really hoping they would so I would have a strongish defence this season!
And Mr BlueJacket you did extremely well with Voracek! I was like damn hes a bit of a stud now!
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Post by ECFHL Commissioner on Oct 24, 2011 14:37:46 GMT -5
the one thing I will suggest is to allow each team to challenge one re rate based on their performance in the sim. This would mainly be geared towards older players who may have put up good numbers this year in the ECFHL but by virtue of the sim got re rated down because they are above 30. There's really no way to come up with an un-biased rerate system that won't have half the league fighting constantly and complaining. The one thing I like about the sim rerates are that they are completely independant of personal influence. Good or bad, nobody gets a say in the sim rerates.
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Post by leafs on Oct 24, 2011 14:55:50 GMT -5
the one thing I will suggest is to allow each team to challenge one re rate based on their performance in the sim. This would mainly be geared towards older players who may have put up good numbers this year in the ECFHL but by virtue of the sim got re rated down because they are above 30. There's really no way to come up with an un-biased rerate system that won't have half the league fighting constantly and complaining. The one thing I like about the sim rerates are that they are completely independant of personal influence. Good or bad, nobody gets a say in the sim rerates. yeah but then you have guys who were 2nd on your team in scoring drop 2 overall points. Or guys like Tim Thomas who won the Vezina trophy see his ratings drop I mean no offence to you because I know obviously your just pushing a button but it doesn't make it that realistic. If you gave each team one performance re rate that was non transferable you could have each GM argue different ratings using the stats from the first season. For example for a bump at scoring you look at goals, IT you look at hits, DI - PIMs, PA - assists etc. The only issue would be ratings with no clear relevant statistic like SK or ST. I dunno I'm not trying to complain here but I just think you need to have something for when the sim royally fucks up some players. And it's not even because I got fucked to hell with these re rates its because I've seen something offered to GMs in virtually every sim re-rate league I've ever been apart of. Again Nick please understand that I'm trying to offer constructive criticism here, this isn't a shot against you or the league I'm simply only trying to get you thinking in order to make the league the best it can possibly be
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Post by ECFHL Commissioner on Oct 24, 2011 15:18:59 GMT -5
I understand, but I've also seen every discussion degrade into a flame war and I'd rather just let the sim do it's thing than open it up to allowing teams to argue over ratings.
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Post by oilersgm on Oct 24, 2011 15:45:43 GMT -5
I'm in a sim that offers every team a putback and a challenge and it works great ,but whatever I'm fine with the way things are.
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Post by LosAngelesGM on Oct 24, 2011 18:46:07 GMT -5
Not bitching at Nick. I already explained to him via text message.
I'm not happy with rerates. Kopitar, Letang, Quick, Ryan are all young players and all regressed. Quick I think bothers me most because he was one of the best 3 goalies in the sim last season. He had unreal stats but his ratings dropped. Just weird to me.
Meanwhile, scrub a dub O Jokinen went up lol. Who knows. I think all the "Young guys will jump up in ratings in no time" is a bullshit argument proven wrong here. I cant wait for the first person to use that in trade talks, I'll gladly put that stupid argument to rest.
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