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Post by NJDevils on Nov 29, 2011 10:16:22 GMT -5
I see your point, but I feel like they have solid numbers now and at that age have a lot of growth potential. I just don't want to see people not be able to trade superstars for prospects. Not that I would do something like that... but these guys weren't prospects anymore...we know what they're rated. it's not like they were rated 8.5 or something with the HF scores and not yet created. Because there are no re-rates they're essentially depth at this point (and poor depth at that). But they're still going to rerate at the end of every season and at their ages have a lot of potential to move up. Still, it's a moot point since the guy never accepted it and neither of them have shown up since. It's a bit amusing that the we're having this discussion for a trade that hasn't been accepted.
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Post by ECFHL Commissioner on Nov 29, 2011 11:43:09 GMT -5
The whole NHL rerate idea isn't on our radar anytime soon. We've discussed it and nobody was for it. It'd be a long time before I'd re-open it up for discussion.
I have no problem with teams trading star players for picks and prospects, but there is a major difference between a prospect and a low rated, already activated player.
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Post by winnipeggm on Nov 29, 2011 12:23:17 GMT -5
I'm on AIM everyday if you ever want to talk about this deal or any others for that matter. And believe me, nobody was as surprised as me when he he asked for the players. I simply inquired about chara to see where he was with his team and then even more simply accepted the deal he offers. If I must I can post the conversation which was already sent to nick as well. As for him not responding yet that's beyond my knowledge as he said he would reply that night.
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Post by sensgm on Nov 29, 2011 12:25:36 GMT -5
your on AIM? I've never seen u online!
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Post by bluejacketsgm on Nov 29, 2011 12:44:36 GMT -5
he's on AIM quite often actually (Jets GM)...it's just your lame englishman internetting skillz =)
I don't even know what the Boston GM's contact info is...last time I looked it hadn't been changed on the contacts page
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Post by oilersgm on Nov 29, 2011 12:47:06 GMT -5
The whole NHL rerate idea isn't on our radar anytime soon. We've discussed it and nobody was for it. It'd be a long time before I'd re-open it up for discussion. I have no problem with teams trading star players for picks and prospects, but there is a major difference between a prospect and a low rated, already activated player. Well I think it should be discussed again because this system is big time flawed.Im a rebuilding team I played all my young guys last year I have guys that played lots last year put up points and they never budged in ov,then I have players that sucked that I never used like stortini,jf jacques,giroux and there ratings go up while guys like omark,paajarvi and more stay the same! So basically yr1 rebuild blows for me and lets say it happens again I'M screwed then.I like the league and everything but when I joined I started making alot of trades right off the bat expecting there were future nhl young guy rerates then later in the season its determined theres not so I guess i'm out of luck lol because I can't see myself paying 12 mil for guys like krecji and sedin,so all I got is hope.
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Post by LosAngelesGM on Nov 29, 2011 12:57:55 GMT -5
Edm - The NHL rerate talk was early on in season 1 and it was highly opposed by GMs. Nick and I are against it heavily as well bc once you start doing rerates, then we are going to see jumps all over, with a ton of 80OV players. Last league Nick ran, 4th liners were 77-78 OV players. It sucked. That's why we are opposed to NHL rerates.
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Post by ECFHL Commissioner on Nov 29, 2011 13:08:25 GMT -5
Well I think it should be discussed again because this system is big time flawed.Im a rebuilding team I played all my young guys last year I have guys that played lots last year put up points and they never budged in ov,then I have players that sucked that I never used like stortini,jf jacques,giroux and there ratings go up while guys like omark,paajarvi and more stay the same! So basically yr1 rebuild blows for me and lets say it happens again I'M screwed then.I like the league and everything but when I joined I started making alot of trades right off the bat expecting there were future nhl young guy rerates then later in the season its determined theres not so I guess i'm out of luck lol because I can't see myself paying 12 mil for guys like krecji and sedin,so all I got is hope. I don't have a huge problem with NHL rerates as long as people understand that I want reasonable rerates. Those who traded badly rated young players will see it as unfair and those who have collected young players will see not using NHL rerates as unfair.
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Post by oilersgm on Nov 29, 2011 13:08:44 GMT -5
Edm - The NHL rerate talk was early on in season 1 and it was highly opposed by GMs. Nick and I are against it heavily as well bc once you start doing rerates, then we are going to see jumps all over, with a ton of 80OV players. Last league Nick ran, 4th liners were 77-78 OV players. It sucked. That's why we are opposed to NHL rerates. I wasn't having for my whole team to be rerated whats wrong with 1 guy a season or 2 every 2nd season.Im talking about young future stars like hall and eberle not guys like stortini and jacques.
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Post by bluejacketsgm on Nov 29, 2011 13:18:31 GMT -5
as lame as it would be to see some young kid who turns into a stud in the NHL being rated poorly or regressing each season I loathe the idea of a league filled with 80ovr type players. I look at the rosters of other leagues and that's what it seems like happens after 5 seasons or so. it's ridiculous to have an 80ovr 3rd or 4th line and i feel this current method creates much more of an overall "Team building" concept. you can still acquire young guys who are highly rated and have them created to their abilities (this was addressed last season with the re-working of the prospect creations) and when they're really young you stand a much better chance of them progressing as they have quite a few seasons to play through. Not to mention they're cheap and therefore you can pay the ridiculous salaries for a UFA and then have your prospect play with them in an attempt to bolster their stats and have a greater chance at getting a positive increase during the auto re-rates. (my guys who went up were by and large guys who had good seasons for their ovr ratings).
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