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Post by ECFHL Commissioner on Jul 13, 2011 13:34:02 GMT -5
my biggest bone to pick with the simulator is that people auto decline when they move from 29 to 30 and every year following. As far as I know, there isn't an auto decline in the simulator. I've noticed players go up in stats after the age of 30. The problem with prospects are that they are prospects. I don't think a guy like Braydon Schenn, for example, should be higher rated than actually NHL players just simple because he has the potential to be better. People are going to complaint and disagree regardless of what we decide. Re-rates, especially NHL, are probably the most dividing topic in an FHL league. |
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Post by NJDevils on Jul 13, 2011 13:43:04 GMT -5
I believe the sim got rid of the auto decline in a newer version. Definitely used to be there. You used to be able to track a players development as soon as you activated him as a prospect. It was a bit insane.
They went to one that seemed more of a lottery than anything else (albeit that was after a few seasons of playing with the auto rise and auto decline so it seemed a bit insane and destroyed your planning).
We started committed to no NHL rerates. Yes it sucks because guys like Clarkson, Tedenby and Josefson are probably lower than they should be because of it, but it is what it is. No point in changing it now.
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Post by sensgm on Jul 13, 2011 13:48:07 GMT -5
In all fairness it is extremely rare for player over the age of 30 to go up!
Leading on from my "freezing" idea... maybe you could select to "freeze" say 3 particular stats... therefore reducing the amount of decline!
Also being able to only do 1 player would add another dimension to the league and make it more fun, and promote trading etc...
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Post by ECFHL Commissioner on Jul 13, 2011 13:55:45 GMT -5
I wouldn't say it's extremely rare. I have the latest version of the sim, it seems to rerate guys much better than previous versions.
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Post by sensgm on Jul 13, 2011 13:59:59 GMT -5
Ive hardly ever seen guys over 30... going up in ratings (new sim or old)! I don't mind guys over 30 reducing anyway... I was just giving an idea in response to CBJ "bone"!
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Post by NJDevils on Jul 13, 2011 14:05:42 GMT -5
I wouldn't say it's extremely rare. I have the latest version of the sim, it seems to rerate guys much better than previous versions. This is my first league in a while, so I'll take your word for it. Either way, the fact that we're dealing with it from the beginning and not switching mid way like I have in previous leagues makes a big difference. |
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Post by sensgm on Jul 13, 2011 14:12:31 GMT -5
You do know the sim hasn't been updated since 2005? So I dout anything will have changed  |
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Post by BluesGM on Jul 13, 2011 15:35:01 GMT -5
i disagree with any "freezing" of players - older players, generally, do start to decline once they hit 30. as always - there are exceptions, but for every sedin - there's probably 20 guys who are seeing their play decline in real life.
everyone knows that veterans will decline in the sim - and it's part of the business. if you dont want your players to go down - then dont trade for old players. we don't need some cheap gimmick to save our rosters from getting worse - it takes away the skill and fun of being a GM and building a team. i traded for visnovsky knowing full well he's going to go down next year. it'd be cheap for me to be able to "freeze" his ratings now and still have the same d-man next year.
i do like there being a "potential" for NHL rerates - at least for the first few years. there's some pretty poorly rated players in this league right now and it would allow for the correction of some of those players. for example - mike santorelli (a 20 goal scorer in the nhl....with more upside) is rated a 70 overall. nathan oystrick (on my team) didn't play a game in the nhl this year and is also rated a 70. that's terrible. santorelli should be a 74ish type with decent offensive ratings, and it sucks for GM's that own players like this.
i like what i used to do in my old league of letting GM's argue for rerates. i wouldn't always grant them, only if i agreed with them. i also didn't rerate anyone over 30 to keep the inflation of ratings down. i used to do 3 - but 1 would be fine. send our arguments to the commish and assistant commish and they decide if they agree/disagree with our argument. sorta like an arbitration hearing.
just my $.02
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Post by Avs on Jul 13, 2011 15:59:21 GMT -5
I still think Doughty rated an 81 is hi-lar-i-ous.
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Post by BluesGM on Jul 13, 2011 17:14:25 GMT -5
Mike Green has 72 defense rating.  I win. |
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