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Post by BluesGM on Dec 17, 2011 18:26:04 GMT -5
it makes sense to have it otherwise future stars will be drafted with low ratings and never be what they should be and its not realistic. i dont think thats the reason for the rerates. a guy like ryan nugent hopkins wont be eligible to be rerated for like 6 ECFHL seasons, and thats assuming even that he played all 82 games in the NHL for the next two years (extremely unlikely) that being said, i still voted for it, since theres so many guys in this league that need the re-rates. i like the system nick set up.
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Post by ECFHL Commissioner on Dec 17, 2011 18:44:26 GMT -5
Simply put, take a kid like Hopkins, he wouldn't be eligible for a re-rate until the end of the season in 2013 AT THE EARLIEST! He'll likely miss a handful of games between now and then as well so you'd likely be looking at 2014 or thereabouts which at that point who knows how many seasons will have been simmed? 7? 8? Because this league doesn't run parallel to a real NHL season I would think you'd have to drop the min. game requirement down a bit in order to do this more efficiently. So we should re-rate guys based on what, potential? Hopkins would be considered an expection, not the rule. Most young NHL aren't going to burst onto the scene and become superstars. They shouldn't in our league either. Plus, in my experience, I usually run two seasons per 1 NHL season, so it's not as exaggerated a gap as some suggest.
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Post by ECFHL Commissioner on Dec 17, 2011 18:55:03 GMT -5
164 games is enough to get an ok read on a player's development. We changed the prospect chart to better accomodate the young players ratings. The NHL rerate isn't for prospects necessarily. It's for guys like Letang, etc.
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Post by Avs on Dec 17, 2011 19:05:39 GMT -5
Yeah, why are you focused on the young folk? Besides, Hopkins is already rated quite well. This is more for veterans who play on West Coast teams because of Nick's obvious East Coast bias.
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Post by oilersgm on Dec 17, 2011 19:11:13 GMT -5
164 is steep, why so much ?you have a rerate down if you dont like it after I thought.Columbus gm is right ,look at my team ,Taylor Hall been hurt and so has Jordan Eberle so I'll have to wait again .I already played a season in this league the sim rerates were crap for my team ,no problem I guess I'll wait 2 more years after this season lol
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Post by ECFHL Commissioner on Dec 17, 2011 19:19:23 GMT -5
164 is steep, why so much ?you have a rerate down if you dont like it after I thought.Columbus gm is right ,look at my team ,Taylor Hall been hurt and so has Jordan Eberle so I'll have to wait again .I already played a season in this league the sim rerates were crap for my team ,no problem I guess I'll wait 2 more years after this season lol Taylor Hall is a good example. He's a 74 ov in our league, albiet some of his other stats are off a good bit. Last season, he was a 72 and he's 20 y.o. He went up 2 whole OV points. Maybe not in the areas that are most critical, but to say he's not improving is crap. What should his overall be? Should he be a 77-78 based on 85 NHL games? who's to say that he won't be able to stay healthy in the NHL and then you have an overrated young player who has become a superstar.
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Post by oilersgm on Dec 17, 2011 19:36:19 GMT -5
164 is steep, why so much ?you have a rerate down if you dont like it after I thought.Columbus gm is right ,look at my team ,Taylor Hall been hurt and so has Jordan Eberle so I'll have to wait again .I already played a season in this league the sim rerates were crap for my team ,no problem I guess I'll wait 2 more years after this season lol Taylor Hall is a good example. He's a 74 ov in our league, albiet some of his other stats are off a good bit. Last season, he was a 72 and he's 20 y.o. He went up 2 whole OV points. Maybe not in the areas that are most critical, but to say he's not improving is crap. What should his overall be? Should he be a 77-78 based on 85 NHL games? who's to say that he won't be able to stay healthy in the NHL and then you have an overrated young player who has become a superstar. Hall might be a bad example right now but either way certain attributes are out of wack for alot of young guys all over the league. Hall did go up ,the same as Wilson,but off the top of my head guys like stortini,jacques,clarkson,boyle who were on the bench,farm,4th liners go up in the sim, and then I have young kids that play top 6 minutes like eberle,omark,mps,they go no where . All i'm saying rerates bring a little more realism to the league as well as your rerates down.
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Post by leafs on Dec 17, 2011 19:50:34 GMT -5
I'd lower the games a bit.....not much though. Just to allow a guy to miss a couple games a season for whatever reason.
Make it 160......only gives a player 4 games they can miss in two seasons. That still gives you a good sample size for the player in question to be rerated and makes it so the player doesn't need to be Mr. Ironman in order to be eligible either.
healthy scratches and even minor little injuries can sometime happen to even the most durable players.....i think this needs to be considered
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Post by oilersgm on Dec 17, 2011 19:51:15 GMT -5
164 is steep, why so much ?you have a rerate down if you dont like it after I thought.Columbus gm is right ,look at my team ,Taylor Hall been hurt and so has Jordan Eberle so I'll have to wait again .I already played a season in this league the sim rerates were crap for my team ,no problem I guess I'll wait 2 more years after this season lol Taylor Hall is a good example. He's a 74 ov in our league, albiet some of his other stats are off a good bit. Last season, he was a 72 and he's 20 y.o. He went up 2 whole OV points. Maybe not in the areas that are most critical, but to say he's not improving is crap. What should his overall be? Should he be a 77-78 based on 85 NHL games? who's to say that he won't be able to stay healthy in the NHL and then you have an overrated young player who has become a superstar. Had a little more to say on this lol ! Im not sure what his overall should be but he's a top forward for the oilers already regardless of his age and games played in the nhl and he's rated 74 just like scott gomez one of the biggest bums in the nhl . If he becomes a overated player then you got your rerate down don't you?All I am saying like columbus said 1 injury for a guy like him screws his potential rerate up and then you have to wait till the next time which would be 2 more years.If thats what you want so be it your the commish,this is just my 2 cents
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Post by ECFHL Commissioner on Dec 17, 2011 19:58:54 GMT -5
he's rated 74 just like scott gomez one of the biggest bums in the nhl Gomez who's career NHL PPG is .77 Just because he's sucked in MTL, doesn't mean he was always a bum. Which is my point.
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