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Post by ECFHL Commissioner on Mar 12, 2012 17:50:26 GMT -5
I debated posting this email, however, I feel it is appropriate. As I've stated many times before, the way certain GMs go on the offensive and attack other GMs sends a negative message to those who aren't in the inner circle or looking to join the league. Anyway, I digress.
"Hey man I am sorry to do this but I can't stand some of the GM's in this league - the forums are full of them spamming each other and fighting all the time. You run a great league though, so take no offence from this and I am truly sorry if i screw you over. You do a great job and are on top of everything - I feel bad for you with these shit GMs. I want it to be known I am solely leaving because of how ridiculously unprofessional and immature the other GMs are (and I'm 19...). Thank you for the oppertunity. Feel free to post this email to call those GM's out, they could probably use it. Thanks and sorry again. Greyson."
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Post by sensgm on Mar 12, 2012 18:27:45 GMT -5
that sucks as Greyson seemed a pretty decent guy! I hope I'm not tarnished as being one of those gm's
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Post by bluejacketsgm on Mar 12, 2012 19:01:13 GMT -5
I just want to point out that it's really sad that some people are so uptight to quit a league over spamming or 'friendly' arguments on the boards. In the end it's about the quality of the league itself and this one is a regularly run league that is obviously well managed and consistent. Without any spamming or heckling the boards wouldn't even be worth reading as everything would primarily be a league announcement or a trade agreement. I'm not sure what some of those who've quit are really looking for...?
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Post by oilersgm on Mar 12, 2012 19:29:08 GMT -5
This guy quit in another league i'm in 2 weeks ago ,claiming his computer was broken. So take it for what it is he doesn't last long in leagues.I don't mind the trash talkin myself but there are a few gm's that do not like it when it gets childish and annoying.Some gms do get out a hand once in awhile but it's a sim it is suppose to be fun .I'm sure if it's that bad there be more GM's complaining and the commish might say something and fine the team or something but whatever I've seen worse.
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Post by leafs on Mar 12, 2012 19:44:28 GMT -5
I just want to point out that it's really sad that some people are so uptight to quit a league over spamming or 'friendly' arguments on the boards. In the end it's about the quality of the league itself and this one is a regularly run league that is obviously well managed and consistent. Without any spamming or heckling the boards wouldn't even be worth reading as everything would primarily be a league announcement or a trade agreement. I'm not sure what some of those who've quit are really looking for...? I agree in a sense with that but jesus can you let a new GM get used to the league and your guys nature before you rip him to shreds? To be honest if I wasn't the Leafs and hadn't invested so much time into my team....I would have probably been out of here long ago It's a shame a few grade school teachers missed giving some people here the lesson of how to use constructive criticism. As Nick has said many times before.....it's not the little jabbing that is getting under these people's skins (people can live with the little ribbing) it's the full blown attacks that some of you like to use because you think its the only way to shed some light on your problem The truth is that a simple email to Nick about any problem you have probably solves it quicker and without as much attacking and bullshit that a post to the whole league does I intentionally didn't want to include any people's names here but they should know who they are and honestly think longer and harder before snapping at someone for the whole league to see
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Post by Avs on Mar 12, 2012 20:12:47 GMT -5
I guess some peoples skin aren't as thick as others. I've been in several fantasy leagues (yahoo ones included) and shit talking has always been the norm. I wouldn't expect a 19 yr old to be able to handle it. On the other hand, nobody likes a whiner and there does seem to be a little too much of that going around.
Without naming names (rhymes with Shmalex), I know certain individuals rub others the wrong way but he doesn't date girls and this is really the only thing that keeps him going between Marlins and Panthers games. I forgot what my point was but he means well and is just overtly competitive about these things. While he brings up good points from time to time, he just needs to work on his tact, that's all. And this isn't an attack on any particular individual (I love you Shmalex) but its obvious who everyone's talking about since he ruffles the most feathers around here.
This is actually a very well run league with a commissioner who cares and I think we all take that for granted. Lastly, to anyone else who's thinking about leaving the league over trivial shit, don't be such a fucking pussy and grow a pair.
Oh, and fuck Dustin Penner.
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Post by leafs on Mar 12, 2012 21:17:09 GMT -5
I'm in a bunch of leagues with shit talking.....this isn't my first go around
I think I've been doing FHL for about 6-7 years now and in all my time I've never seen people handle their business so publicly and distastefully as some people here do.
Have I seen guys called out before in other leagues? sure plenty of times but there is a huge difference between calling someone out and publicly going on blast against them......a lot of the time it gets directed at new GMs too, no wonder a lot of them get fed up
Generally all you guys are quality dudes honestly all of you.....I just think there needs to be more thought going into people's actions
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Post by bluejacketsgm on Mar 12, 2012 21:35:47 GMT -5
"The truth is that a simple email to Nick about any problem you have probably solves it quicker"
This isn't true. I still haven't gotten the hook-up on that discount Cialis I ordered.
Jax, don't forget to mention Shmalex's fav NBA team the Heat as well, that keeps him entertained too.
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Post by Harry on Mar 12, 2012 23:18:15 GMT -5
I agree with Jaxan. Fuck Dustin Penner.
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Post by wildgm on Mar 12, 2012 23:55:55 GMT -5
Please refer to Mr. Penner by his full name, Dustin "Pancakes" Penner. Thanks.
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