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Post by Avs on May 17, 2012 12:44:49 GMT -5
Franchise tag is a bad idea. It will expedite the escalating salary issue as it will be used on marginal players who will get super star dollars. Making the one UFA resign guaranteed would be enough to satisfy the majority. Also, being able to trade it adds a nice little twist to negotiations.
As Alex mentioned earlier, there needs to be recourse for signing players to ridiculous offers. Teams should not be allowed to put players in the farms if the player has X amount of pro games played. A team can however, buy out a player if it chooses to, but instead of docking our useless cash pile, dock that teams salary cap for the next season. Yes its another NFL style rule but one that might be worth considering.
I'm also anxious to hear Nicks idea about tweaking free agency.
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Post by leafs on May 17, 2012 13:27:04 GMT -5
I'm in favour of the franchise tag being guaranteed and teams also having 1 bid for 1 other UFA
lets be honest people, if we do that it's not going to severely effect the UFA market. It's not like this will take 60 players off the market, probably 40-45 at the absolute most
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Post by ECFHL Commissioner on May 17, 2012 13:50:58 GMT -5
One problem area that I've noticed during UFA signing periods is that teams submit a bunch of offers to sign players because they don't know who they are going to get. This happened with Vancouver for example when he signed both Connolly and Penner and then got rid of Connolly for a couple of draft picks. I'm not faulting Vancouver for that, it's more of a fault in the system. One of the things in the new FA system is going to be a cap on bids. I'm also anxious to hear Nicks idea about tweaking free agency. Hoping to be able to get a rough draft up in a few days.
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Post by BluesGM on May 17, 2012 16:24:14 GMT -5
I'd be willing to consider a one guarantee UFA signing as long as people realize they'd have to overpay a bit to keep their guy. well - you would negotiate on their behalf like you would an RFA. maybe we could use similar guidelines?
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Post by sensgm on May 17, 2012 16:25:37 GMT -5
isnt that kinda what I said?
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Post by BluesGM on May 17, 2012 16:26:56 GMT -5
I'm in favour of the franchise tag being guaranteed and teams also having 1 bid for 1 other UFA lets be honest people, if we do that it's not going to severely effect the UFA market. It's not like this will take 60 players off the market, probably 40-45 at the absolute most 40-45 guys is alot - way too much, in fact - especially when you consider it's likely going to be the best 40-45 guys out there.
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Post by BluesGM on May 17, 2012 16:27:36 GMT -5
isnt that kinda what I said? i don't know, i don't speak french
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Post by CanucksGM on May 17, 2012 16:37:06 GMT -5
Lets say I try to trade for Dan Hamhuis - I'm not going to want to give up much because I know he's not sticking around. So now VAN is handcuffed by not getting back fair value for their player AND either losing him in the market or paying so much to keep him it effects what other players they keep. That's a true story right there... I've been trying to trade his ass since midseason last year. Every response so far is, I don't want him because his contracts up next year and I already have my one guy, or I'll take him, but I'm not giving you what he's worth because his contracts up next year.
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Post by BluesGM on May 17, 2012 16:39:55 GMT -5
Lets say I try to trade for Dan Hamhuis - I'm not going to want to give up much because I know he's not sticking around. So now VAN is handcuffed by not getting back fair value for their player AND either losing him in the market or paying so much to keep him it effects what other players they keep. That's a true story right there... I've been trying to trade his ass since midseason last year. Every response so far is, I don't want him because his contracts up next year and I already have my one guy, or I'll take him, but I'm not giving you what he's worth because his contracts up next year. I have no UFA's this season. If the re-sign was guaranteed - I'd take Hamhius, and I have plenty of good assets to trade away, too. The guaranteed re-sign gives security to everyone, while still limiting the amount of FA's re-signed leaving to a very meaningful free agency period.
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Post by LosAngelesGM on May 17, 2012 18:21:32 GMT -5
I vote for 1 guaranteed UFA resign. Similar to the RFA process of getting a few stabs at signing the guy. We all knew for over a season that we only got 1 UFA Resign. Keep that as is. Just let us get our 1 UFA resigned. Thats fair I think.
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