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Post by leafs on Jun 7, 2012 18:49:46 GMT -5
Alex man no offence but we can't alter rules just because your team is too good
If we went by the league OV average it probably would be even lower like 73-74 so just be happy that's its as high as 75
And as Nick already said if the time comes when 75 doesn't make sense anymore then that number can easily be altered
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Post by Harry on Jun 7, 2012 18:50:27 GMT -5
Question or clarification concerning RFA offers. Will the league disqualify offers made by teams if the contract they are offering to an RFA forces them to exceed the salary cap? I guess the same question would apply to teams submitting offers to UFAs that will force them to exceed the $65M cap.
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Post by LosAngelesGM on Jun 7, 2012 20:05:50 GMT -5
Harry - I'll let Nick answer that question.
To the point made by Tor above, and no offense to you Alex, but I scrubbed the farm teams and only 1 team is over the $3 mill farm cap. Most are under by a good 1 - 2.5 million. Also, most have exactly at or under 71OV on their farm. I really tried to be as fair as possible on the farm rules and even be flexible with it.
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Post by BluesGM on Jun 7, 2012 22:36:16 GMT -5
Alex man no offence but we can't alter rules just because your team is too good If we went by the league OV average it probably would be even lower like 73-74 so just be happy that's its as high as 75 And as Nick already said if the time comes when 75 doesn't make sense anymore then that number can easily be altered i said it's not that big of a deal - i'll adapt. but it's also not fair to change rules that punish teams because they are "too good" (your words not mine...) |
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Post by ECFHL Commissioner on Jun 7, 2012 23:51:26 GMT -5
Question or clarification concerning RFA offers. Will the league disqualify offers made by teams if the contract they are offering to an RFA forces them to exceed the salary cap? I guess the same question would apply to teams submitting offers to UFAs that will force them to exceed the $65M cap. For the upcoming offseason, yes you will be able to exceed the cap by 10%. After this offseason, the plan is to not allow teams to exceed the cap. |
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Post by BluesGM on Jun 8, 2012 3:29:58 GMT -5
Harry - I'll let Nick answer that question. To the point made by Tor above, and no offense to you Alex, but I scrubbed the farm teams and only 1 team is over the $3 mill farm cap. Most are under by a good 1 - 2.5 million. Also, most have exactly at or under 71OV on their farm. I really tried to be as fair as possible on the farm rules and even be flexible with it. i just dont see the correlation between this rule and FA's. the money part is fine and i completely agree with since the only reason a guy making 3+ mil would ever be in the minors would be to circumvent the salary cap.... but these rule changes were/are being implemented to alter free agency... but a 75+ ov could realistically be in someones minor league team, whether it be a prospect who has developed and/or thru trades. all of last season i had a 75 ov goalie down there in case of an injury to one of my pro goalies. i'm not the only one who has that, either. off the top of my head, SJ has leclaire whos like a 74 and will probably become a 75. i'm sure there's others. i just think it's a bit unfair to handcuff GM's with a rule that is basically designed for free agency. if this is only for guys that are signed as free agents, then i think it's completely fair and would be 100% behind it. but the way it's worded now, teams that have depth on their farm teams will basically have to give it away even if they weren't acquired via FA. |
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Post by sensgm on Jun 8, 2012 4:51:47 GMT -5
I have a few points/questions which I'll post later but seeming the OV75 guys in the farm is the hot topic! I would just like to say I am completely behind it, alrhought I would suggest changing the OV for goalies as 75 in my mind is not a starting goalie and teams will end up having loads of backup goalies on their pro rosters.
Also Alex you wouldn't be giving them away, we both know you would trade them ;-)
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Post by ECFHL Commissioner on Jun 8, 2012 7:58:55 GMT -5
This will probably be my last post until Sunday lol. Don't know what my internet access will be like this weekend.
The farm OV rule was something we discussed a lot because I knew it would be something that could potentional cause the most discussion. It's something we've used in past leagues and had some success with.
It's a two part rule in my opinion. The money part of the rule is to stop teams from hiding money on the farm for the sake of artificially raising their cap space (which I believe everyone agrees with and understands). The overall part of the rule helps balance this out a bit. We looked at all rosters before coming up with the rule. The idea, in my opinion, is to try and keep certain players in play and keep more teams competitive. At this time, this shouldn't be an issue and as I stated before, if it becomes one in future seasons, we can always alter it.
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Post by NJDevils on Jun 8, 2012 8:52:30 GMT -5
I've been in past leagues that had a limit on farm OV (lower than this one), with roster OVs across the board noticeably much higher than this league (77 OV bottom 6 players was a norm for almost everyone) and it was never an issue.
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Post by leafs on Jun 8, 2012 12:21:56 GMT -5
I agree with Tom that maybe you could make the max Farm OV for goalies just a shade higher
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